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alternative templates(back to index)hi everyone,
this might be a bit early, but I am desperately looking for a template that runs on fb3, other than the one in the beta-download.
my knowledge of css is lacking and I am just not getting any further modifying the template the way I wish. a very simple centered layout with lots of freedom to formate. the fb3-template is too pre-formatted for me...
*IAMCHAINSMOKINGANDCOFFEEDROWNINGHERE*
posted by
armin on 23 Jun 05 at 5:00 AM
...and, I just noticed: when I change the name of 'fb.php' to 'index.php' I get this:
Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING in /mnt/kw1/04/479/00000002/htdocs/blog/index.php on line 298
and nothing else...
posted by
armin on 23 Jun 05 at 5:09 AM
what beta you got? (fb3bXY.zip)
posted by
erik on 23 Jun 05 at 5:52 AM
hi erik,
I have downloaded the latest: fb3b06.zip.
posted by
armin on 23 Jun 05 at 6:04 AM
HEEEEEEEEELP!
I am going crazy. I am spending hours fooling around with the template layout and when I call it in SAFARI, CAMINO or IE (all on MAC OSX) I am always getting three different layouts and they are all messed it up. Why is it so complicatet to modify the css???? or am I just a dilletant, if so, pleeeeeease help!
If I try css-layouts from other sources, I just don't know how to get them synchronised with the fb-styles, since they have their own classes and id's and what the heck...
posted by
armin on 23 Jun 05 at 7:53 AM
Armin, if you're patient, can wait a few days and like the look of
Jowra's template, I should have a version of that for fb3 soon.
Getting these templates to be x-browser (i.e. to work in all browsers, both on Windows XP and OS X), is fairly tricky, as they all have different ways of rendering pages. No matter what you do, some things will always look
slightly different (forms are a classic example!). The best way to go about things is to use standards compliant CSS and not to use any browser specific hacks (like the Mozilla specific stuff that this site and Folderblog uses, to get those rounded corners, which is invalid CSS -- check this
here). That way, you can cut down on the problems.
CSS can target tags (like <div>, <body>, <input>, etc.) and the 'class' and 'id' attributes (the difference being that an 'id' is unique and can only be used once on a page, while a 'class' can be used repeatedly). When making themes and templates in CSS, I usually look at the source code from within a browser, make a note of the tags and attributes used, and start from there. The best place to learn how to use CSS correctly is
W3Schools. While you can look at other CSS layouts for ideas, you'll also have to look at the (X)HTML source code too, as CSS depends on that to do most of it's tricks.
posted by
Elwing on 23 Jun 05 at 8:13 AM
Addendum: Jowra is also working on a new verson of his template for fb3, so you might want to wait for that one and use the genuine article, rather than my tweaked version (I use
FotoBuzz and few other extras on my templates, which are derivatives).
posted by
Elwing on 23 Jun 05 at 8:25 AM
million thanx!!
I have just answered on the other thread 'picture size'.
I am a 'learner-by-doing' but I prefer the option to start my project "half done" since there is just too many things too learn for someone more interested in taking photos rather than writing script.
and I DO like your template indeed and will wait!
thanks again!
posted by
armin on 23 Jun 05 at 8:26 AM
Elwing, since you are much more involved to folderblog at the moment then me, it would be great if you could release the modified relaxation-theme first. I’m writing a totally new the-me for fb3 right and haven’t that much time for now. I would update my simple-version later on or we could pack both variants together in one zip?
Thanks for all your FB3-work. :)
John
posted by
jowra on 23 Jun 05 at 8:48 AM
Actually, it may be best to add them both to the wiki, on a single page, with seperate sections for the two versions, but then who would host the files?
It might be an idea to bundle the fb3 template in with the fb2.02 one (and perhaps the WordPress one too), as a single download from your site, and have just the fb3 one on it's own on my site, for folks that used the old version and just need the update, with the wiki linking to them from a single page (I'm working on a couple of versions, with and without
FotoBuzz support).
Either way, I'm more than happy to release the updated template, if you're happy to let me.
I'm getting quite into tinkering with Folderblog at the moment, and hope to mess about with the default template and create an original one too (and perhaps help with structuring the XHTML of Folderblog itself). Heh, I don't have a life! :-)
posted by
Elwing on 23 Jun 05 at 10:36 AM
When I release fb3 final, I'll post some alternate templates similar to the
folderblog 2 templates. I also have been planning to host a templates library on the site, but only one or two people ever sent me templates! Once I release fb3 final, I'll put up a submission form for the library. For now, the wiki is the best place.
(And thanks for all your help, Elwing. It's great to have someone making sure I don't get to sloppy.)
posted by
donald on 24 Jun 05 at 3:37 PM
@donald,
again I am looking forward what fruits your selfless labour will bring us ;-))
@elwing,
I will keep looking for the link the coming days, or if it is not too much to ask: will you notify me by mail when it is ready?? that would be kind, since I will not have access to a computer from mid-july on and seriously need to be done by then (posting can then be done in any internet cafe...)
thank you and all others engaged in this project for your help.
posted by
armin on 24 Jun 05 at 4:04 PM
(Jowra, once again you've outdone yourself with your updated template. I'm half-tempted to feature your blog for another week. Gorgeous eye for design.)
posted by
donald on 24 Jun 05 at 4:07 PM
Sorry, just read this today... and it makes me glad. We have to thank YOU Donald for giving us this great piece of software!
posted by
jowra on 30 Jun 05 at 3:16 AM
to make sure a document with proprietary-attributes (-moz-opacity, ...) validates, i wrote
this javascript file, so that at least those (probably) 96% that have js enabled get a valid doc...
just an idea feel free to copy...
posted by
erik on 1 Jul 05 at 12:32 PM
*ehem* ok, not only js enabled but also the UA-string is needed to let this work...
posted by erik on 1 Jul 05 at 12:35 PM
